Boa tarde, gostaria de pedir à LIBS caso veja esta noticia que entrasse em contacto comigo. Preciso falar consigo acerca do que lhe aconteceu. Tbem fui alvo da mesma situação e resolvi apresentar queixa e a resposta que me deram não foi a mesma que lhe deram a si...se pudesse entrar em contacto comigo agradecia...o resto falo consigo em particular...Ate breve
Boa tarde, o meu nome é Cristiana Oliveira, e esta semana quase ficava sem 600 euros, se não visse estes comentários. Também encontrei um apartamento girissimo e muito barato aqui no porto e pedi para o visitar.
Eis a resposta:
Hello, First of all i'm sorry to write you in english but i don't speak portugal. I just read your e-mail regarding my apartment located in : Rua da Firmeza 480 , 4000-126 Porto. It has 3 rooms : 2 bedrooms, 1 bathrooms, 1 kitchen and 1 living room (90m2 ). I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies in Portugal, but now she's back home (Rome/italy) permanently, so I'm renting the place for unlimited time. Before we go any further I would like to know a little something about you, like how many persons you intend to live in the apartment, and for how long. The flat is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished and renovated. Also, very important, the utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless broadband Internet, digital TV, 1 parking spots, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine, etc.) are INCLUDED in the price of 300 EUR/month. The kaution is also EUR 300,00, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment (you will have to give me at least 30 days notice). As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment. My daughter is building her life here, and i am too old to move to Portugal, so we won't disturb you. You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a very large and well ventilated cellar, where you can store my furniture. Now, a little bit about myself so we can get to know each other better. My name is Lidia Conti and I'm a 58 years old graphic designer from Rome / Italy, planning to retire in the next 2 years. I have a lovely husband,David and a 25 year old daughter, Linda. I am very proud to say that soon I'm going to be a grandmother :). Another member of our family is a 8 year old Labrador which we all love, so, I have no problem if you will keep pets. The only inconvenience is that my job doesn't allow me to leave Rome even for one single day. We just hired some new staff and I'm in charge of their training. But this won't affect you at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from Rome (on my expense of course). Looking forward to hear from you soon. All the best from Rome!
Fiquei hiper contente! após algumas trocas de e-mails is fazer a trasferência para o moneybookers. Ainda bem que decidi pesquisar um pouco primeiro.=)
Agora mandei-lhe um mail a dizer que vou a itália para a semana, e que se lhe der jeito poderíamos encontrar-nos, que era mais facil. Vamos ver o que a senhora diz..=p
Muito obrigada a todos, se não fossem estes blogs eu ficava sem 600 euros.
yes , we can meet , but now we must close this deal with moneybookers. the transaction is started . we have agreed that now we close this deal with MB. ok?
Thanks, Lidia
E eu disse-lhe que não, que gostava de a encontrar primeiro, até porque o que diz no site do moneybooks é que nós temos 15 dias para fechar o negócio. Agora estou à espera da resposta, mas acho que não a vou receber!
Eu gostava de apresentar queixa também, alguém sabe o que se pode fazer? É que isto é muito triste..
Colocado por: cristianav Eu gostava de apresentar queixa também, alguém sabe o que se pode fazer? É que isto é muito triste.. Cristiana
ISSO é que é uma atitude correcta ! Imprima um email vindo dessa personagem, com todos os «headers» e telefone para a Polícia a perguntar onde pode apresentar queixa por tentativa de burla (deve ser na Judiciária mas, como nunca fiz nenhuma queixa destas , não lhe sei dizer)
Muito obrigada Luis, é exactamente o que vou fazer. Para além dos mails tenho o contacto telefónico, que ela até uma mensagem me mandou a dizer que tinha iniciado a transacção, e acreditam que o número é mesmo italiano? Isto está muito bem montado, e já deve ter apanhado muito boa gente. Gostava de alertar as pessoas que vêem o site, mas lá não há maneira de denunciar o aúncio, como existe em outros sites. Não há muito que eu possa fazer, apresentar queixa é o mínimo, pode ser que depois de algumas se comecem a preocupar.
A PJ vai enviar de imediato uma missão a Itália,que, vai levar todos os emails impressos, juntamente c\ os IP´s respectivos. Quando lá chegar marca reunião c/ o Berlusconi que vai de imediato querer saber se a cristianaav e a sofia gomes gostam de grandes jantaradas. Depois, a missão da PJ acaba por prender a meliante que lhe quer alugar o pseudo apartamento e esta vai ter que escolher entre ficar preso em Vale de Judeus, ou ser condenado a ser copeira nas jantaradas do Berlusconi. Depois de muito hesitar a tal meliante (que é gay) acaba por se suicidar atirando-se de uma lambreta em andamento...
Agora a sério: Vocês não acham que a PJ tem assuntos mais importantes a tratar do que dar atenção a algumas pessoas que ainda acreditam no Pai Natal, ou seja dão entrada para aluguer de um apartamento sem o ver?
Acho que a policia não pode, nem vai fazer muito.. mas eu fico de consciência tranquila. E se as pessoas denunciassem este tipo de situações se calhar não havia tanta gente a cair em burlas e portanto não seria um negócio tão bom.. Ficar de braços cruzados não é, sem dúvida, o melhor caminho, aliás é covarde e mostra preguiça e desleixo. É por pessoas assim que Portugal não anda para a frente, "porque não vale a pena"!! Mas muito obrigada pelo comentário desnecessário e ridículo Paramonte, se não ajudas, pelo menos não atrapalhes.
Ola Cristiana... tbem me aconteceu o mesmo e tbem já me fui informar acerca de fazer queixa. Ao contrário do que dizem que não vale a pena não é bem assim... A PJ sabe das burlas mas tem de haver algém que dê andamento ao processo com uma queixa para que eles possam começar a investigar...Precisamente por termos esse pensamento do "deixa andar" é que temos a porcaria de país que temos...Recolhe todos os dados que puderes que é o que eu estou a tentar fazer neste momento...Falta-me falar com a Libs à qual apelo mais uma vez para entrar em contacto comigo, pois ela pode ter um dado importante para anexar ao meu processo....se nao conseguir vou seguir assim mesmo para a frente...
Olá a todos ! Realmente existem pessoas que são verdadeiros profissionais na arte da burla. Tive, neste caso como senhorio, uma situação extremamente complicada (poderão ver na discussão «emprestei as chaves e instalou-se indevidamente»). Pela minha experiência, esqueçam a PSP que nada irá fazer e reportem esta ocorrência à PJ que é do melhor que temos no meio de todas as instituições publicas existentes neste país. Graças a eles e sem mesmo eu saber concretamente e até há pouco, muitas pessoas foram poupadas às mais diversas burlas e abusos. Força, vão para a frente com essa queixa. Cumprimentos
Vou mesmo! Já imprimi todos os mails enviados e recebidos e tenho uma mensagem de um numero italiano. Amanhã ou depois vou à PJ então. Depois conto o que me disseram.
Boa tarde a todos, nem quero acreditar mas também eu estou a ser alvo da mesma burla neste momento com alguém que diz ter o nome de Linda Uzberg (logo um nome que é uma palavra que eu gosto tanto ;) ). Foram já 4 os mails trocados, e nada de me dizer a morada completa do apartamento. Os contactos começaram no dia 30/03 com a minha resposta a um anuncio colocado no site anuncioo.com em que perguntava se o valor do aluguer 300€ mobilado com todas as despesas e regalias incluídas era mensal, (poderia ser semanal como outros que existem) daí a minha duvida, era bom demais para ser verdade. Recebi resposta no mesmo dia com a confirmação de aluguer mensal e que precisava de 10 dias para tratar das coisas caso estivesse realmente interessada. Respondi afirmativamente e a resposta foi que infelizmente já não estava em Portugal, já se encontrava em Mancherter, mas que tudo se resolveria através do site http://moneybookers.com/app/. A verdade é que os mails são quase todos copy paste dos que vi aqui. Trata-se de mais uma burla declarada e pelo qual lamentavelmente pouco podemos fazer para impedir. Penso que talvez uma possível tentativa de minimizar a situação seria contactar o tal site http://moneybookers.com/app/ que após o ter vasculhado todo me parece idóneo, mas que esta a ser alvo de intermediário de uma burla. Eu não sei inglês infelizmente, mas penso dar um jeito de fazer chegar a informação ao site. Seria bom poder fazer a transacção com o conhecimento do site e desse modo eles tentarem perceber como é feita a burla. É só uma ideia. Obrigada por existirem. Cumprimentos
Se alguém que foi alvo deste tipo de tentativa de burla estiver ainda na dúvida se deve ou não deve apresentar queixa por recearem que não irá produzir efeito, considerem que mesmo que haja uma possibilidade que não aconteça nada, se não apresentarem a queixa então de certeza que não acontecerá nada. Portanto, só tem a ganhar com isso.
Juntando a isto, se houver uma pequena hipótese de impedir alguém de perder 600€ ou até de ser forçado a viver na rua... Acho que valeria a pena. A sociedade só funciona se todos nós contribuirmos para que ela funcione.
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A sociedade só funciona se todos nós contribuirmos para que ela funcione. Sem duvida que sim, ram, embora neste caso as autoridades pouco ou nada possam fazer. Não tenho provas de burla concretizada e não tenho conhecimento de ninguém que tenha realmente sido burlado. Dada a situação a única forma que temos de contribuir é pelos nossos meios e no meu caso o único meio que tenho é tentar contactar por escrito para o site a divulgar a situação. Se vai ou não produzir efeito, não sei, mas pelo menos tento contribuir assim para que a sociedade funcione. Bem ajam
bem anda bem que vim verificar isso aqui....tb eu estou a remails com "uma senhora" chamada Carolyn Bennett.....e tal como ja foi dito aqui, os emails são cpy past dos que li até agora aqui mesmo....é sobre uma partamentot2 em Viana do castelo por 280€ totalmente equipado e moderno....uma raridade por isso o meu interesse.......cioo.com/imobiliario/arrendamento/apartamentos/viana-do-castelo/viana-do-castelo/apartamento-para-alugar-em-viana-do-castelo-t2-2551530 passo mostrar o 1º:
Hello, First of all i'm sorry to write you in english but i don't speak portugal. I just read your e-mail regarding my apartment located in : Rua Manuel Lima Bezerra 17 , 4900-424 Viana do Castelo. It has 3 rooms : 2 bedrooms, 1 bathrooms, 1 kitchen and 1 living room (90m2 ). I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies in Portugal, but now she's back home (Nicosia/Cyprus) permanently, so I'm renting the place for unlimited time. Before we go any further I would like to know a little something about you, like how many persons you intend to live in the apartment, and for how long. The flat is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished and renovated. Also, very important, the utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless broadband Internet, digital TV, 1 parking spots, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine, etc.) are INCLUDED in the price of 280 EUR/month. The kaution is also EUR 280,00, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment (you will have to give me at least 30 days notice). As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment. My daughter is building her life here, and i am too old to move to Portugal, so we won't disturb you. You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a very large and well ventilated cellar, where you can store my furniture. Now, a little bit about myself so we can get to know each other better. My name is Carolyn Bennett and I'm a 58 years old graphic designer from Nicosia/Cyprus, planning to retire in the next 2 years. I have a lovely husband,David and a 25 year old daughter, Linda. I am very proud to say that soon I'm going to be a grandmother :). Another member of our family is a 8 year old Labrador which we all love, so, I have no problem if you will keep pets. The only inconvenience is that my job doesn't allow me to leave Nicosia even for one single day. We just hired some new staff and I'm in charge of their training. But this won't affect you at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from Nicosia/Cyprus (on my expense of course). Looking forward to hear from you soon. All the best from Nicosia ! --------------------------------------- Carolyn Bennett Department Manager in Graphic Design 20 Ay.Eleftheriou Str. 2055 Nicosia +357 96374027 [email protected]
devo dizer que a primeira impressão nao me pareciu muito ma.... mas eu repondi-lhe e perguntei como poderei fazer a visita... e pummba la vem o outro mail:
Thank you for your reply but the matter is that I'm in Nicosia/Cyprus already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for one month of rent will be 280 EUR + 280 security deposit ( kaution ) = (560 euro), with no extra taxes to pay.I must have one month rent + security deposit from you.You pay this money just for this time and every month you pay just 280 euro . The money, I want to recive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem for you to wire the money to my bank account. The apartment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you like it. Obviously we need a way to complete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 2 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a company called MoneyBookers which is similar to FedEx or UPS, which will handle both payment and delivery of the Keys. I have found a procedure that will allow you to pay for the rent of the apt only after you will receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my payment. Please click on the link bellow to the MoneyBookers website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company where the procedure is explained: https://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=escrow&l=EN Let me know if you are interested please because I really need to take care of this matter. Carolyn
~pronto aiii é que ja me cheirou a esturro mas claro fui pesquisando.....e repsondi-lhe mais uma vez a sugerir que se contactasse com uma imobiliaria ca e que sera mt mais facil para tratar da documentaçºao referente ao contrato e etc.... mas nicles nao falou nada sobre isso recebi hoje este mail: I want to inform you that MoneyBookers will hold the money until you will confirm to them that you like the apt and keep the keys. If you don't like it, you only have to return the keys to them after they will refund the money to you and they will deliver the keys back to me on my expense. I will need to inform you the steps about how this service works and how we can make it happen. You will only have to deposit to MoneyBookers Service the first month of rent + security deposit - 560 EUR - so they can proceed with the shipping, and you can receive the keys and the contract. Like I said, I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the Keys and the contract signed by me right away. I will explain to you step by step how this will work: 1 - To start this transaction i will need to know your full shipping information, full name, full shipping address and phone number to proceed with this deal . 2 - I go to the MoneyBookers Office and leave the Keys and the contract in your name as the intended receiver. 3 - MoneyBookers will check the envelope to see if everything is OK with it and also the legal papers that will come along with the Keys. 4 - MoneyBookers will send you a delivery notification to let you know they have the Keys and the papers in their custody, in which you will be told that they have the Keys and that they checked it. 5 - At this point you will have to go to a WesternUnion Agent Location and make a money transfer deposit on the MoneyBookers agent name in Nicosia/Cyprus assigned with this transaction for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit is for the first month of rent. 6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the infos about the money deposit to MoneyBookers (MTCN#, sender's name and address) 7 - MoneyBookers will verify the payment informations and if everything is in order they will deliver the Keys and the contract to you . 8 - After you receive the package, You will go and check the apt and in 2 days you must contact them and tell them if you keep the apt or not, if everything is in order you will instruct MoneyBookers to release the funds to me. If you don't like the apt they will send your money back and you will send them the keys and the contract to them to return the package back to me on my expense.I will pay MoneyBookers Service for the shipping and you will pay WesternUnion for the Money Transfer fees.Now i must know for sure if you agree because here are a lot of peoples interested to have this apartment rented and i want to know for sure what i must tell them. If you agree what i suggested i will tell them that my apartment is already rented and i will keep it for you. If you agree then i must have all the shipping details so i will be able to make all the arrangements for the MoneyBookers delivery. very Important: WesternUnion is just a methos of payment , they are not authorized to give you any information about this transaction for your security.You just have to do a normal money transfer to a person (moneybookers agent).Only MoneyBookers has access to this transaction for more security. Thank you for your interest and wait news from you. Carolyn
enfim so me apetece é responder a insulta-la
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Também aconteceu a mim sobre a burla do apto. em CASCAIS, tal qual como foi cá divulgado, há poucos minutos recebi um e-mail com instruções para enviar o dinheiro 6oo euros para receber as chaves. Pela manhã fui ver a tal morada. Somente muda o nome, agora chamasse Victoria Conner- email- [email protected] http://www.custojusto.pt/Lisboa/2742636.htm: Anúncio de apartamento no custojusto abaixo cópia do primeiro e-mail que recebi Hello,
First of all i'm sorry to write you in english but i don't speak portugal. I just read your e-mail regarding my apartment located in : Rua do Poço Novo 49 , 2750 Cascais / Lisboa. It has 3 rooms : 2 bedrooms, 1 bathrooms, 1 kitchen and 1 living room (100m2 ). I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies in Portugal, but now she's back home (Nicosia/Cyprus) permanently, so I'm renting the place for unlimited time. Before we go any further I would like to know a little something about you, like how many persons you intend to live in the apartment, and for how long. The flat is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished and renovated. Also, very important, the utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless broadband Internet, digital TV, 1 parking spots, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine, etc.) are INCLUDED in the price of 300 EUR/month. The kaution is also EUR 300,00, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment (you will have to give me at least 30 days notice). As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment. My daughter is building her life here, and i am too old to move to Portugal, so we won't disturb you. You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a very large and well ventilated cellar, where you can store my furniture. Now, a little bit about myself so we can get to know each other better. My name is Victoria Conner and I'm a 58 years old graphic designer from Nicosia/Cyprus, planning to retire in the next 2 years. I have a lovely husband,David and a 25 year old daughter, Linda. I am very proud to say that soon I'm going to be a grandmother :). Another member of our family is a 8 year old Labrador which we all love, so, I have no problem if you will keep pets. The only inconvenience is that my job doesn't allow me to leave Nicosia even for one single day. We just hired some new staff and I'm in charge of their training. But this won't affect you at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from Nicosia/Cyprus (on my expense of course).
Looking forward to hear from you soon.
All the best from Nicosia ! --------------------------------------- Victoria Conner Department Manager in Graphic Design 20 Ay.Eleftheriou Str. 2055 Nicosia +357 96374027 [email protected]
Mas como não creio muito em milagres fui pesquisar telefone e ainda bem que encontrei as denúncias por aqui. Mas já recebi outros e-mail com as instruções, então não caiam nessa.
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Bom dia, O meu caso e um pouco mais avançado. Só ainda não fiz a transferência, e menti no ultimo email para ela, porque li este anuncio. Mas digo-vos uma coisa, isto é mesmo muito estranho. O processo com a Money bookers parece todo legal, embora falte algumas informações.
*Inglês arranhado o nosso*
Começamos nós:
good day My name is Ewerton I thank the attention as requested in the email I will talk a little about me and my wife. We are a new couple have less than a year of marriage .... live in Tavira about 50 kilometers from Faro ... I am authorizing telephonic work for a phone operator Optimusmobile and fixed and my wife works in Portugal Telecom mobile telephonecompany (bidder of my company) not have pets because we have very little time to care ... I interece by tbm his apartment because my wife was moved to faro and spends a lot on transportation ... in relation to the time the apartment is of long duration can start with a 5 year contract ... are nun total only 2 people .. I found her charming apartment .. and very localized because of the work of my wife ... I wonder how would do to have the keys to the apartment andformalize the contract .... you have someone taking care of this apartment (one responsiblefor it here in Portugal)? in relation to the 300 euro deposit guarantee not see a problem I thank the attention and I hope we do business
Resposta:
Hello, First of all i'm sorry to write you in english but i don't speak portugal. I just read your e-mail regarding my apartment located in : Av. Cidade de Hayward 2 , 8005 Faro. It has 3 rooms : 2 bedrooms, 1 bathrooms, 1 kitchen and 1 living room (80m2 ). I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies in Portugal, but now she's back home (Nicosia/Cyprus) permanently, so I'm renting the place for unlimited time. Before we go any further I would like to know a little something about you, like how many persons you intend to live in the apartment, and for how long. The flat is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished and renovated. Also, very important, the utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless broadband Internet, digital TV, 1 parking spots, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine, etc.) are INCLUDED in the price of 300 EUR/month. The kaution is also EUR 300,00, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment (you will have to give me at least 30 days notice). As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment. My daughter is building her life here, and i am too old to move to Portugal, so we won't disturb you. You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a very large and well ventilated cellar, where you can store my furniture. Now, a little bit about myself so we can get to know each other better. My name is Victoria Stephenson and I'm a 58 years old graphic designer from Nicosia/Cyprus, planning to retire in the next 2 years. I have a lovely husband,David and a 25 year old daughter, Linda. I am very proud to say that soon I'm going to be a grandmother :). Another member of our family is a 8 year old Labrador which we all love, so, I have no problem if you will keep pets. The only inconvenience is that my job doesn't allow me to leave Nicosia even for one single day. We just hired some new staff and I'm in charge of their training. But this won't affect you at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from Nicosia/Cyprus (on my expense of course). Looking forward to hear from you soon. All the best from Nicosia ! --------------------------------------- Victoria Stephenson Department Manager in Graphic Design 20 Ay.Eleftheriou Str. 2055 Nicosia +357 96374027 [email protected]
nós:
Falta aqui um email que nós enviamos, que não encontro.
ela:
Thank you for your reply but the matter is that I'm in Nicosia/Cyprus already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for one month of rent will be 300 EUR + 300 security deposit ( kaution ) = (600 euro), with no extra taxes to pay.I must have one month rent + security deposit from you.You pay this money just for this time and every month you pay just 300 euro . The money, I want to recive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem for you to wire the money to my bank account. The apartment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you like it. Obviously we need a way to complete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 2 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a company called MoneyBookers which is similar to FedEx or UPS, which will handle both payment and delivery of the Keys. I have found a procedure that will allow you to pay for the rent of the apt only after you will receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my payment. Please click on the link bellow to the MoneyBookers website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company where the procedure is explained: https://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=escrow&l=EN Let me know if you are interested please because I really need to take care of this matter. Victoria
nós:
good morning ok, I agree with Victoria. But for safety of both parties, the order of the key must be sent to the address of the house, and the company be advised to contact us an hour before. if the key opens the door, we pay the order. And then if we like the house, we will do the contract. if possible, send the key, after you receive this mail. What do you think Victoria? is it possible? after seeing the pictures of the house, we were very concerned for her, but of course, we are talking about 600 euros, and for our and your security, this method would be best for both parties. we must also know the complete address of the house, to know where it is. Contact us once you have the answer. ,If you send the key between today and tomorrow, its best. Thanks
ela:
I want to inform you that MoneyBookers will hold the money until you will confirm to them that you like the apt and keep the keys. If you don't like it, you only have to return the keys to them after they will refund the money to you and they will deliver the keys back to me on my expense. I will need to inform you the steps about how this service works and how we can make it happen. You will only have to deposit to MoneyBookers Service the first month of rent + security deposit - 600 EUR - so they can proceed with the shipping, and you can receive the keys and the contract. Like I said, I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the Keys and the contract signed by me right away. I will explain to you step by step how this will work: 1 - To start this transaction i will need to know your full shipping information, full name, full shipping address and phone number to proceed with this deal . 2 - I go to the MoneyBookers Office and leave the Keys and the contract in your name as the intended receiver. 3 - MoneyBookers will check the envelope to see if everything is OK with it and also the legal papers that will come along with the Keys. 4 - MoneyBookers will send you a delivery notification to let you know they have the Keys and the papers in their custody, in which you will be told that they have the Keys and that they checked it. 5 - At this point you will have to go to a WesternUnion Agent Location and make a money transfer deposit on the MoneyBookers agent name in Nicosia/Cyprus assigned with this transaction for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit is for the first month of rent. 6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the infos about the money deposit to MoneyBookers (MTCN#, sender's name and address) 7 - MoneyBookers will verify the payment informations and if everything is in order they will deliver the Keys and the contract to you . 8 - After you receive the package, You will go and check the apt and in 2 days you must contact them and tell them if you keep the apt or not, if everything is in order you will instruct MoneyBookers to release the funds to me. If you don't like the apt they will send your money back and you will send them the keys and the contract to them to return the package back to me on my expense.I will pay MoneyBookers Service for the shipping and you will pay WesternUnion for the Money Transfer fees.Now i must know for sure if you agree because here are a lot of peoples interested to have this apartment rented and i want to know for sure what i must tell them. If you agree what i suggested i will tell them that my apartment is already rented and i will keep it for you. If you agree then i must have all the shipping details so i will be able to make all the arrangements for the MoneyBookers delivery. very Important: WesternUnion is just a methos of payment , they are not authorized to give you any information about this transaction for your security.You just have to do a normal money transfer to a person (moneybookers agent).Only MoneyBookers has access to this transaction for more security. Thank you for your interest and wait news from you. Victoria
nós:
oh, ok victoria, now i understood how the company operates. so I can send you the details of my wife. Full Name: Patricia ************** Address: ************ Contact: 9***********
After Tell us the day we can deposit the money in western.
Thanks
Entretanto nós recebemos uma mensagem no meu telemóvel para irmos ver o email dela, parecia que estava com pressa e uma notificação do site da moneybookers, ou seja, parecia estar a fazer tudo legal. O email dela era a perguntar se tínhamos recebido a notificação, o qual respondemos que sim e que iríamos à westerunion saber das coisas. E fui, mas eles na westerunion não tem conhecimento da empresa, ou seja, não tem protocolo com eles, o que achei estranho, porque se entrarem no site deles, eles dizem que trabalham com a wester union.
ela: Great ! i will wait your news.
Thanks,
nós:
Hello Victoria, I will go to do the transfer tomorrow in the morning, but i only didn't understood on thing. I tranfer the money in the name of the agent of moneybooks, yes?- Gabriel bobea, yes? Because today i asked in WU for this company, and they told me that its only exist for them. So, its in the name of Gabriel Bobea?
ela:
Great ! i will wait your news.
Thanks,
nós: Hello victoria, I did the transfer of the money. Please send the key and the contract. Thanks
ela:
good morning Ewerton ,
If you made the payment please send the scan paper to moneybookers with the payment details so they can start the delovery to you. Just reply to the e-mail received from them with the notifocation. Ok?
Thanks,
E aqui eu penso..e fico na duvida..isto é mesmo burla?? Parece que sim, porque voces todos receberam o mesmo mail de pessoas diferentes, lugares diferentes..mas ate aqui, com algumas duvidas, mas até acharia que a pessoa estava a fazer tudo legal.