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Burla em arrendamento T1 Cascais - atenção
- Mas você ainda tem dúvidas?Fui parvo o suficiente de lhe dar ate a minha murada o telemovel e o nome completo,ate recebi a notificaçao do moneybookers, mais 1 dia e ia fazer o deposito ate que decidi pesquisar a morada dela e apareceu isto sobre as burlas
e agora o que ela fara com os meus dados?
vi o anuncio da casa no : www.coisas.com
Este foi o 1º email dela
Hello,
First of all i'm sorry to write you in english but i don't speak portugal. I just read your e-mail regarding my apartment located in : Rua Ramalho Ortigão 15 , 2700 Amadora / Lisboa. It has 3 rooms : 2 bedrooms, 1 bathrooms, 1 kitchen and 1 living room (80m2 ).
I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies in Portugal, but now she's back home (Nicosia/Cyprus) permanently, so I'm renting the place for unlimited time.
Before we go any further I would like to know a little something about you, like how many persons you intend to live in the apartment, and for how long.
The flat is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished and renovated. Also, very important, the utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless broadband Internet, digital TV, 1 parking spots, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine, etc.) are INCLUDED in the price of 250 EUR/month. The kaution is also EUR 250,00, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment (you will have to give me at least 30 days notice). As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment. My daughter is building her life here, and i am too old to move to Portugal, so we won't disturb you.
You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a very large and well ventilated cellar, where you can store my furniture.
Now, a little bit about myself so we can get to know each other better. My name is Ana Maria Karnew and I'm a 58 years old graphic designer from Nicosia/Cyprus, planning to retire in the next 2 years.
I have a lovely husband,David and a 25 year old daughter, Linda. I am very proud to say that soon I'm going to be a grandmother :). Another member of our family is a 8 year old Labrador which we all love, so, I have no problem if you will keep pets.
The only inconvenience is that my job doesn't allow me to leave Nicosia even for one single day. We just hired some new staff and I'm in charge of their training.
But this won't affect you at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from Nicosia/Cyprus (on my expense of course).
Looking forward to hear from you soon.
All the best from Nicosia !
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Ana Maria Karnew
Department Manager in Graphic Design
20 Ay.Eleftheriou Str.
2055 Nicosia
+357 96374027
[email protected]-
Luis K. W.
- 13 abril 2011
Colocado por: PakiE aqui eu penso..e fico na duvida..isto é mesmo burla?? .
Há gente muito ingénua...Colocado por: limo_jokaFui parvo o suficiente de lhe dar ate a minha murada o telemovel e o nome completo,(...) e agora o que ela fara com os meus dados?
Se não enviou cópias do BI, o seu NIB e outras parvoíces, pode ser que se safe.
Em todo o caso, *tentativa* de burla também é crime.
Se está com medo que lhe aconteça alguma (abrirem conta em seu nome, e usarem os cheques sem cobertura), apresente queixa na Polícia. Leve cópias de todos os emails com os respectivos «headers».Eu não sou ingénua Luis K. W., se tivesse acontecido consigo, acredite que entraria na duvida também, pois só percebi que era duvida mesmo quando li este fórum. Apesar de estar já com algumas duvidas, até ao momento não tinha a certeza que seria burla.
Felizmente fui a tempo, e também sou muito desconfiada, e não iria fazer o deposito, mas acredite que a notificação, tudo o que nos é enviado é legal. Logo, nada indicava o contrario. Só postei aqui, para servir para mais um exemplo, para outras pessoas verem o meu testemunho, não para me criticarem.
Só desejo que ninguém caia em erro e faça o deposito.Boa Tarde
o mesmo aconteceu-me a mim, vi no site http://pt.anuncioo.com/ um apartamento excelente T2 mobilado por 250 euros o q achei bastante bom, enviei um pedido de informações e recebi um email em inglês de uma AMANDA ESPOSITO onde explicava que estava em Liverpool e que não poderia ausentar-se de lá, o apartamento tinha sido comprado p a filha enquanto ela estudava cá em portugal, falava da familia dela, e que a casa estava mobilada mas que se eu nao quisesse usar os moveis dela que tinha um local p os guardar à minha disposição, água, luz,internet, td incluído, bom demais...
O preço por si só já me fazia desconfiar, no entanto, quando uma pessoa precisa parece que quer acreditar em tudo :)
O que ela me pedia no email não era p lhe enviar dinheiro nenhum, era no entanto todos os dados pessoais para poder fazer o contrato, dizendo que teria uma outra pessoa interessada e que o primeiro a envia-los seria o novo inquilino, dados que obviamente não dei. Respondi-lhe em Inglês porque não é problema para mim, a pedir p ver a casa antes do aluguer ao qual ela demorou dias a responder. Voltei a insistir porque a situação é urgente e antes de receber a resposta descobri que era burla. E como? Encontrei uma outra casa bastante interessante no mesmo site, desta vez por 300 euros, ao qual voltei a pedir informações, como a localização do mesmo e se ainda estaria disponível. Recebi novamente um email em inglês, em tudo idêntico ao primeiro email mas desta vez com o nome EMMA THORTON. A mesma história mas de uma localidade diferente, de Cyprus, novamente a pedir informações para o contrato.
Entretanto a resposta ao primeiro email chegou dizendo que demorou a responder porque tinha muito trabalho, mas para lhe enviar os dados para fazer o contrato para que pudesse ir ao TNT depositar as chaves e o contrato p eu ver a casa.
Quis dar o meu contributo nesta discussão porque nem sempre os burlões querem dinheiro e os dados pessoais concerteza dão para fazer muitas outras burlas que nem imaginamos que são possiveis.
Cumprimentos a todosApesar de ser um assunto sério, dá-me vontade de rir… também fui "vítima" desta situação hilariante… vi o anúncio aqui http://lisboa.coisas.com/imoveis/apartamentosapartamento-2-quartos-para-alugar-em-amadora-lisboa-t2-250-euro-per-mes/2150857/ (mas já não está disponível, porque será??!!)
Solicitei informação ao anunciante normalmente e aqui os emails recebidos (qualquer semelhança aos vossos é pura coincidência…)
Primeiro:
Hello,
First of all i'm sorry to write you in english but i don't speak portugal. I just read your e-mail regarding my apartment located in : Rua Ramalho Ortigão 15 , 2700 Amadora / Lisboa. It has 3 rooms : 2 bedrooms, 1 bathrooms, 1 kitchen and 1 living room (80m2 ).
I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies in Portugal, but now she's back home (Nicosia/Cyprus) permanently, so I'm renting the place for unlimited time.
Before we go any further I would like to know a little something about you, like how many persons you intend to live in the apartment, and for how long.
The flat is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished and renovated. Also, very important, the utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless broadband Internet, digital TV, 1 parking spots, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine, etc.) are INCLUDED in the price of 250 EUR/month. The kaution is also EUR 250,00, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment (you will have to give me at least 30 days notice). As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment. My daughter is building her life here, and i am too old to move to Portugal, so we won't disturb you.
You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a very large and well ventilated cellar, where you can store my furniture.
Now, a little bit about myself so we can get to know each other better. My name is Ana Maria Karnew and I'm a 58 years old graphic designer from Nicosia/Cyprus, planning to retire in the next 2 years.
I have a lovely husband,David and a 25 year old daughter, Linda. I am very proud to say that soon I'm going to be a grandmother :). Another member of our family is a 8 year old Labrador which we all love, so, I have no problem if you will keep pets.
The only inconvenience is that my job doesn't allow me to leave Nicosia even for one single day. We just hired some new staff and I'm in charge of their training.
But this won't affect you at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from Nicosia/Cyprus (on my expense of course).
Looking forward to hear from you soon.
All the best from Nicosia !
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Ana Maria Karnew
Department Manager in Graphic Design
20 Ay.Eleftheriou Str.
2055 Nicosia
+357 96374027
[email protected]
Segundo:
Thank you for your reply but the matter is that I'm in Nicosia/Cyprus already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for one month of rent will be 250 EUR + 250 security deposit ( kaution ) = (500 euro), with no extra taxes to pay.I must have one month rent + security deposit from you.You pay this money just for this time and every month you pay just 250 euro . The money, I want to recive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem for you to wire the money to my bank account. The apartment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you like it. Obviously we need a way to complete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 2 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a company called MoneyBookers which is similar to FedEx or UPS, which will handle both payment and delivery of the Keys. I have found a procedure that will allow you to pay for the rent of the apt only after you will receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my payment. Please click on the link bellow to the MoneyBookers website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company where the procedure is explained: https://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=escrow&l=EN
Let me know if you are interested please because I really need to take care of this matter.
Ana Maria
Terceiro:
I want to inform you that MoneyBookers will hold the money until you will confirm to them that you like the apt and keep the keys. If you don't like it, you only have to return the keys to them after they will refund the money to you and they will deliver the keys back to me on my expense.
I will need to inform you the steps about how this service works and how we can make it happen. You will only have to deposit to MoneyBookers Service the first month of rent + security deposit - 500 EUR - so they can proceed with the shipping, and you can receive the keys and the contract.
Like I said, I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the Keys and the contract signed by me right away. I will explain to you step by step how this will work:
1 - To start this transaction i will need to know your full shipping information, full name, full shipping address and phone number to proceed with this deal .
2 - I go to the MoneyBookers Office and leave the Keys and the contract in your name as the intended receiver.
3 - MoneyBookers will check the envelope to see if everything is OK with it and also the legal papers that will come along with the Keys.
4 - MoneyBookers will send you a delivery notification to let you know they have the Keys and the papers in their custody, in which you will be told that they have the Keys and that they checked it.
5 - At this point you will have to go to a WesternUnion Agent Location and make a money transfer deposit on the MoneyBookers agent name in Nicosia/Cyprus assigned with this transaction for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit is for the first month of rent.
6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the infos about the money deposit to MoneyBookers (MTCN#, sender's name and address)
7 - MoneyBookers will verify the payment informations and if everything is in order they will deliver the Keys and the contract to you .
8 - After you receive the package, You will go and check the apt and in 2 days you must contact them and tell them if you keep the apt or not, if everything is in order you will instruct MoneyBookers to release the funds to me.
If you don't like the apt they will send your money back and you will send them the keys and the contract to them to return the package back to me on my expense.I will pay MoneyBookers Service for the shipping and you will pay WesternUnion for the Money Transfer fees.Now i must know for sure if you agree because here are a lot of peoples interested to have this apartment rented and i want to know for sure what i must tell them. If you agree what i suggested i will tell them that my apartment is already rented and i will keep it for you. If you agree then i must have all the shipping details so i will be able to make all the arrangements for the MoneyBookers delivery.
very Important: WesternUnion is just a methos of payment , they are not authorized to give you any information about this transaction for your security.You just have to do a normal money transfer to a person (moneybookers agent).Only MoneyBookers has access to this transaction for more security.
Thank you for your interest and wait news from you.
Ana Maria
INCRÍVEL!!! Como achei o primeiro email muito estranho, fui logo investigar e deparei-me com esta triste realidade… BURLA!!! os emails seguintes já foram intencionais da minha parte… e para quem não sabia falar português "percebeu muito bem" os meus emails, uma vez que sempre respondi em português… Bom, é para esquecer…
Não conhecem ninguém que trabalhe na T.V.?? Divulgando os emails, pelo menos quem ande à procura de casa sempre fica mais atento…
De qualquer maneira, este fórum já foi uma grande ajuda… Obrigada!!
Boa Páscoa!!- informa-burla
- 2 setembro 2011
Atenção
Burla em curso:
Tenho anuncio na Internet de uma vivenda no Algarve .
Fui contactado ja por 3 burlões.
Estão a ficar mais sofisticados poucos vestígios deixam.
Apenas contactam directamente pelo telemóvel demonstram interesse na casa não querem discutir preço pagam até mais que o valor do imóvel,dizem ter dinheiro para investir dizem pagar metade em dinheiro vivo outra por transferência bancaria, propõe aos proprietários dos imóveis que se desloquem para se "conversar,Acertar negocio" ..
Depois ja se sabe o que querem com a deslocação e conversa, mas exigem até a exaustão que quem vende o imóvel faça a viagem até propõe pagar as viagens de avião.
No meu caso a proposta foi ir. : a Milão/ Itália outro Barcelona/Espanha outro Amesterdão.
Todos os 3 contactos foram feitos de U.K Itália Espanha.
Muito cuidado com estes contactos :
O email de um dos Burlões presumível imobiliária em Milão que nem casas tem é o seguinte : [email protected]
segue os numero de telemóvel que os burlões usam : 00447771516308 0044777633708 0034911250950 0039322759186610
Espero que esta minha mensagem sirva pelo mínimo para alertar próximas vitimas.
No meu caso jamais iria me deslocar para fora do País para negociar uma venda de imóvel a qual tem que ser totalmente tratada em Portugal..Boa Tarde,
tenho para contar mais um caso dessa rede de burlões, que aconteceu esta semana comigo. por isso tenham cuidado, pois significa que continuam com as burlas. por acaso fiquei muito desconfiada e resolvi pesquisar antes de aceitar qualquer negócio, por isso felizmente nao me conseguiram burlar.
os emails que me enviaram eram iguais aos vossos, mas resolvi falar pois ainda nao encontrei ninguém a queixar-se da mesma casa que eu iria arrendar. a casa era em Matosinhos, um apartamento T2, de luxo. (deixo as fotos para comprovarem)
era-me pedido 280 euros pelo apartamento, com agua, internet, etc, tudo incluido!
fiquei muito indignada e estou revoltada com esta situação pois se já aconteceu a tanta gente como é que o nosso país permite que isto continue a acontecer e que estas pessoas escapem impunes??? enfim.. eu quero mesmo denunciar esta situação e, como nunca me tinha acontecido nada parecido antes, gostaria que me ajudassem a saber o que tenho que fazer e a quem me devo dirigir.
eu continuo a trocar emails com a suposta senhora, uma vez que é recente, para o simples gozo, pois desde que descobri perguntei-lhe se podia visitar o apartamento sem compromisso (aguardo uma resposta).
vou colar aqui os emails que me enviaram:
1º
Hello,
First of all i'm sorry to write you in english but i don't speak Portuguese. I just read your e-mail regarding my apartment located in :Av. Dom Afonso Henriques 1124 ,Matosinhos 4450 ,Porto, Portugal. It has 3 rooms (T2) : 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and 1 living room (74m2 ).
I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies in Portugal, but now she's back home (Torino/Italy) permanently, so I'm renting the place for unlimited time.
Before we go any further I would like to know a little something about you, like how many persons you intend to live in the apartment, and for how long.
The flat is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished and renovated. Also, very important, the utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless broadband Internet, digital TV, 1 parking spots, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine, etc.) are INCLUDED in the price of 280 EUR/month. The Fianza(Deposit) is also EUR 280, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment (you will have to give me at least 30 days notice). As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment. My daughter is building her life here, and i am too old to move to Portugal, so we won't disturb you.
You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a very large and well ventilated cellar, where you can store my furniture.
Now, a little bit about myself so we can get to know each other better. My name is Tania Rech and I'm a 58 years old graphic designer from Torino/Italy, planning to retire in the next 2 years.
I have a lovely husband, David and a 25 year old daughter, Linda. I am very proud to say that soon I'm going to be a grandmother :). Another member of our family is a 8 year old Labrador which we all love, so, I have no problem if you will keep pets.
The only inconvenience is that my job doesn't allow me to leave Torino even for one single day. We just hired some new staff and I'm in charge of their training.
But this won't affect you at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from Torino (on my expense of course).
Looking forward to hear from you soon.
All the best from Torino!
Tania Rech
Department Manager in Graphic Design
Via Barletta 105 ,Torino ,10136
+393894371612
[email protected]
2º
Thank you for your reply but the matter is that I'm in Torino / Italy already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for one month of rent will be 280 EUR + 280 security deposit ( Fianza ) = (560 euro), with no extra taxes to pay.I must have one month rent + security deposit from you.You pay this money just for this time and every month you pay just 280 euro . The money, I want to recive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem for you to wire the money to my bank account. The apartment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you like it. Obviously we need a way to complete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 2 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a company called MoneyBookers which is similar to FedEx or UPS, which will handle both payment and delivery of the Keys. I have found a procedure that will allow you to pay for the rent of the apt only after you will receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my payment. Please click on the link bellow to the MoneyBookers website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company where the procedure is explained: https://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=escrow&l=EN
Let me know if you are interested please because I really need to take care of this matter.
agora aguardo resposta da senhora para visitar o apartamento ;)Eu acho que o governo (que você tanto chama) é q devia multá-la a si por dar tanta conversa...o problema é q há pessoas q ainda acreditam no Pai NatalBoa Tarde,
Gostaria apenas de deixar um comentário para o/a Paramonte.. Acho que você não tem direito nenhum de dizer o que diz ou chamar o que chama às pessoas, muito menos se não as conheçe de lado nenhum. Mas eu falo por mim e se eu gostar de dar conversa ou não o problema é totalmente meu, logo, você não tem nada que tecer comentários sobre isso. E se acreditar no Pai Natal? O problema continua a ser meu, não acha? Apenas deixei aqui o meu testemunho pois, como me tentaram burlar a mim, também o podem tentar burlar a si! Eu, felizmente, não me deixei ser burlada, mas nada me garante que você não fosse, tal como muitas pessoas aqui, que não são ingénuas, mas a quem tudo parecia muito correcto e legal, pois quem anda a burlar tenta com que tudo aparente ser muito real.
Portanto, gostaria apenas de deixar a minha opinião e o meu desagrado sobre os seus escusados comentários e, se acha que as pessoas são mesmo assim inocentes e que você é muito inteligente, escusa de estar a perder tempo a ler estes comentários, já que a si nunca nada do género lhe vai acontecer.
Passe bem* conheceVá lá não se zangue dê cá um "passou bem"!Boa tarde,
eu não estou zangada, apenas acho que você devia medir as coisas que diz, mas é só a minha opinião. não sou de me zangar com as pessoas quando não têm a mesma opinião do que eu, mas gosto de explicar a minha.
sublinho que não estou zangada consigo, por mim está tudo bem =)Colocado por: LibsBoa tarde,
Depois de quase 2 anos a estudar no Estoril, decidi que seria boa ideia começar a procurar um espaço só para mim. Comecei por procurar apartamentos modestos e após ver as rendas que se praticavam, obviamente estando fora do meu "budget", comecei a dar uma olhadela em anexos, que ao contrário do que eu pensava, alguns (ALGUNS) até são bastante engraçados e mais adequados ao meu estatuto de estudante (quase como alugar um quarto mas com um kitchenet com o essencial). Depois de ter visitado horrores (sinceramente... pensei que estava numa favela no Brasil), encontrei um apartamento e inicialmente como apenas olhei o preço, as imagens e a descrição, nem tinha visto que era t1. Pois é, o preço era de 320€, 1 quarto, cozinha, 1 sala e 1 wc. Parece bom demais não é? É...
Mas pronto, uma pessoa na sua ingenuidade inicia a troca de e-mails com o pensamento positivo ou talvez na tentativa de saber se a pessoa se enganou no preço. Peço no site em que encontrei o anuncio que a pessoa me providencie mais informações e fiquei à espera.
1ª resposta - (notem que a pessoa tem nome português)
Hello,
Thank you for your interest. My name is Sofia Gomes and from the internet add, you could see, i have available the apartment located in: R. x, 2750 Cascais. It has 1 bedrooms, 1 bathrooms, 1 kitchen, living room.
I am looking for someone to live in it, as soon as possible, because my company has won the auction for a project, in construction, for a building that will rise up in Manchester, UK . I am a civil engineer, so my accommodation period in Manchester will be about 4 years. The renting period is from 2 months upto 1-8 years. As a result of this I want to rent, for this period, at this price and also to find the perfect person for my apartment. I`m the owner of the apt and it's like in the pics.
The apartment is furnished, but I have the option of sending all my furniture into storage if you want to bring your own (no extra costs). The rent for 1 month is 320 EUR but you must to deposit 640euro / first 2 months at rent (for the whole apartment) including all utilities (water, electricity, Internet, cable, parking, air conditioning, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator). You can move in the apt in the same day when you receive the keys. The only problem is that I`m the only person who has the keys but I hope that we will find a solution.
Thank you for your interest and I will look forward to hearing from you soon.
Sofia Gomes
P.S. Please tell me if this is what are you looking for and reply my only if you are truly interested in the apt.
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Até agora tudo bem, casa, contas incluídas, tudo incluído, saiu-me a sorte grande... Só não percebi porque ela não marcou logo uma visita à casa, dai a minha resposta:
Hi Sofia!
Thanks for the answer, i'm trully interested in your apartment.
Can I see it before I give you the final answer? It's just because i'm a student and it's a bit more expensive than what I was looking for, but the apartment is great so I think its worthy. I can meet you there anytime, please just let me know.
Looking forward to hear from you soon
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De repente dá-me mais um clique no cérebro: casa barata DEMAIS e uma portuguesa a falar em inglês comigo... Começo a fazer pesquisas. Primeiro entrei aqui no fórum e comecei a ler as vossas criticas a situações parecidas, apesar de nunca ter encontrado o mesmo nome, nem o mesmo texto, nem o mail através do qual essa pessoa está a comunicar comigo. A resposta ao meu ultimo e-mail foi o seguinte:
Thank you for your reply but the matter is that I'm in Manchester already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for first 2 months of rent will be 640euro, with no extra taxes to pay. The money, I want to recive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem for you to wire the money to my bank account. The apartment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you like it. Obviously we need a way to complete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 2 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a company called MoneyBookers which is similar to FedEx or UPS, which will handle both payment and delivery of the Keys. I have found a procedure that will allow you to pay for the rent of the apt only after you will receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my payment. Please click on the link bellow to the MoneyBookers website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company where the procedure is explained:https://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=escrow&l=EN
Let me know if you are interested please because I really need to take care of this matter.
Txã... Um site, vindo do nada, para transição do dinheiro pela chave. Tá... Peço então ao meu namorado que vá comigo ver a rua em que ela indicava a morada, nem que fosse para perguntar aos vizinhos se havia algum T1 na mesma situação, informações, algo que ainda pudesse dizer que isto era real (not). Antes, vou ao google maps e qual a minha surpresa.. Quando vejo a localização, esta é mesmo na rua da Policia. Tenho a dizer que já ia preparada para me fartar de rir...
Com quase toda a certeza do que iria encontrar quando chegasse à dita rua, enviei o seguinte mail a fazer-me de parva:
Olá Sofia!
Desculpe apenas agora ter verificado que era portuguesa. Apesar de o meu inglês ser bom, será mais fácil para mim fazer-me perceber em português e entendê-la também. Depois de ter visto o site da moneybookers fiquei um pouco confusa com o sistema e agradecia que me ajudasse melhor a compreender o processo que me pede que aceite.
No maior espírito de galhofa cheguei à rua e começamos a olhar para os números.. de um lado ímpares, do outro pares, blá blá blá... e lá está, Rua Afonso Sanches, nº 24 (...)
Património Municipal - Policia de Segurança Publica - Rua Afonso Sanches, nº26 2754 , incluindo várias infraestruturas nessa rua, incluindo o nº 24.
Morada da dita:Rua Afonso Sanches, nº24 - 2754
Sim, entrei na policia,contei a história e disseram-me que podia fazer queixa(no prazo de 6meses) mas provavelmente não irá dar em nada porque a morada é fictícia, o nome provavelmente fictício e email, nem sei...
Só sei que devo ter dado umas belas razões para aqueles policias mandarem umas gargalhadas.
Ficam aqui as informações da(s) pessoa(s):
Sofia Gomes
e-mail: [email protected]
Engenheira Civil em Manchester
t1: 1 quarto, 1 sala, 1 cozinha, 1 wc - 55m2, 80m2
renda de 320€ com contas incluidas, mas quer transferência dos 2 primeiros meses, respectivamente 640€ através da www.moneybookers.com -https://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=escrow&l=EN
O anuncio está presente em:
http://casa.sapo.pt/Apartamento-T1-Cascais-Cascais-e8ecbd49-fce1-4b89-a764-d7322fe128fb.html
http://pt.anuncioo.com/imobiliario/arrendamento/apartamentos/lisboa/cascais/apartamento-t1-renovado-320-mes-2459403
mas eu encontrei em:
http://casas.portugalmail.pt/929837e não consigo denunciar a situação.
Obrigado pela paciência a quem ler isto. Espero que vos tenha feito rir e alertado (mais uma vez, pois vi que isto se tem tornado moda entre os novos e velhos "ladrões") para estas situações.
A mim nunca me tinha acontecido. De inicio pensei mesmo... "ai, não sejas desconfiada.. qual o sentido de porém um anuncio falso..."
...ai ingenuidade ingenuidade...
O que vocês fariam? Quero apenas evitar que gente que seja ainda mais ingénua que eu faça realmente as transferências de 640€. Custa a ganhar, custa mais ainda a perder...Concordam com este comentário:Carla MaioA mim também me aconteceu, encontrei um apartamento 250 euros lindo com tudo incluído. Graças a estes comentários eu não cai nessa burla.
O apartamento pelo que a tal Sandra Park dizia no email que recebi situava-se na covilhã Rua do Cilindro 11 Ferro.
O primeiro email que me enviou:Hello,
First of all i'm sorry to write you in english but i don't speak Portuguese. I just read your e-mail regarding my apartment located in :Rua do Cilindro ,Covilhã 6200-571, Portugal. It has 3 rooms (T2) : 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and 1 living room (80m2 ).
I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies in Portugal, but now she's back home (Torino/Italy) permanently, so I'm renting the place for unlimited time.
Before we go any further I would like to know a little something about you, like how many persons you intend to live in the apartment, and for how long.
The flat is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished and renovated. Also, very important, the utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless broadband Internet, digital TV, 1 parking spots, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine, etc.) are INCLUDED in the price of 250 EUR/month. The Fianza(Deposit) is also EUR 250, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment (you will have to give me at least 30 days notice). As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment. My daughter is building her life here, and i am too old to move to Portugal, so we won't disturb you.
You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a very large and well ventilated cellar, where you can store my furniture.
Now, a little bit about myself so we can get to know each other better. My name is Sandra Park and I'm a 58 years old graphic designer from Torino/Italy, planning to retire in the next 2 years.
I have a lovely husband, David and a 25 year old daughter, Linda. I am very proud to say that soon I'm going to be a grandmother :). Another member of our family is a 8 year old Labrador which we all love, so, I have no problem if you will keep pets.
The only inconvenience is that my job doesn't allow me to leave Torino even for one single day. We just hired some new staff and I'm in charge of their training.
But this won't affect you at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from Torino (on my expense of course).
Looking forward to hear from you soon.
All the best from Torino!
Sandra Park
Department Manager in Graphic Design
Via Barletta 105 ,Torino ,10136
+393894371612
O ultimo email que me enviou foi hoje de manhã: Thank you for your reply but the matter is that I'm in Torino / Italy already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for one month of rent will be 250 EUR + 250 security deposit ( Fianza ) = (500 euro), with no extra taxes to pay.I must have one month rent + security deposit from you.You pay this money just for this time and every month you pay just 250 euro . The money, I want to recive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem for you to wire the money to my bank account. The apartment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you like it. Obviously we need a way to complete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 2 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a company called MoneyBookers which is similar to FedEx or UPS, which will handle both payment and delivery of the Keys. I have found a procedure that will allow you to pay for the rent of the apt only after you will receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my payment. Please click on the link bellow to the MoneyBookers website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company where the procedure is explained: https://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=escrow&l=EN
Let me know if you are interested please because I really need to take care of this matter.
Imagino o dinheiro que esta gente realiza a enganar os outros. O pior é que não se pode fazer nada esta casa continua para alugar em vários sites:
http://ferro-castelobranco.olx.pt/arrendamento-apartamento-2-quartos-castelo-branco-iid-265650379Boas noites
Vi, ontem, um anúncio no http://www.lardocelar.com, na zona de Sintra, com um preço tentador.
Respondi ao mesmo. Hoje recebi uma resposta de alguém com um nome que tanto pode ser alemão como inglês, dizendo para responder em inglês, por não falava português. Assim fiz e 10 minutos depois recebi uma resposta da qual insiro parte.
A questão que levanto ao participantes deste fórum é se não acham a resposta muito semelhante a que receberam.
Note-se que quando insiro o nome do remetente no google aparece-me logo, a frente do mesmo, a palavra burla, embora na pesquisa só me apareça um forúm brasileiro onde é citado.
Alguém tem algum comentário a fazer?
"I am a project manager in civil engineering, currently living in London England. I bought this apartment when I worked in Portugal as part of a 5 year contract, thinking it would be a better investment than taking in rent.
I am looking for a serious, responsible and clean person to rent the apartment that will take care of the apartment as it were its own. So I would like to know more details about yourself: How old are you, if you are married, if you have a pet, occupation etc... I must say that I have nothing against pets. I love pets and they are welcome in the apartment. In addition to the rest, here is some information about the apartment: The apartment is in a good area, public transportation is just around the corner, neighbors are nice peoples and you will get along with them well. The apartment is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished, fully equipped, so you won’t need anything more to move in (you can also bring your own things, furniture if you have). The monthly rent is 350€ (for the whole apartment), utilities included (water, electricity, internet, cable). You can rent the apartment for an indefinite period, but for a minimum period of 2 months. The renting conditions are: 1 month payment plus a refundable security deposit of 700€ is required (in total 1050E), you will have it back at the end of your stay. Parking for two cars is included. You can move into the apartment the same day you receive the keys.
The deal will be done by an international real estate agency named ImmobilienScout24. The real estate company that will handle the transaction it is serious and with professional staff, they will help you in any matter regarding the apartment. Along with the keys you will receive 1 year renewable contract, signed and legalized at a public notary. Upon visit if you will not like the apartment from any reasons you will get your money back. If you agree with the terms send me the following data so I can go at the agency to start the renting formalities:
Name in full: .....
Address (street, postal code, city,): .....
Nationality: .....
Date of move in and out: .....
Phone number: .....
Copy of your identity card
For how many months/years do you want the apartment: .....
I appreciate your interest in my apartment and I’m looking forward to our future collaboration and friendship."A primeira coisa que eu faria era consultar a imobiliária referida no email...Arrendamentos só com o senhorio á nossa frente e as chaves na mão.
Com a quantidade de burlas que há hoje (a burlas nigerianas são muito bem feitas) todo o cuidado é pouco!- RicardoSilva
- 9 janeiro 2012
Eu e a minha namorada estamos à procura de casa e então surge-nos o seguinte link http://casa.sapo.pt/Apartamento-T6-ou-superior-Alugar-Guimaraes-6c94863c-1b4f-4b2b-a8b6-1bfda824e611.html
Bom demais... mas pronto a minha namorada lá contactou. Primeiro email:
"
Hello,
First of all i'm sorry to write you in english but i don't speak Portuguese. I just read your e-mail regarding my apartment located in : Rua Paulo VI 231 , Guimarães 4810-508, Braga, Portugal. It has 2 rooms (T2) : 2 bedroom, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and 1 living room (75m2 ).
I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies in Portugal, but now she's back home (Torino/Italy) permanently, so I'm renting the place for unlimited time.
Before we go any further I would like to know a little something about you, like how many persons you intend to live in the apartment, and for how long.
The flat is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished and renovated. Also, very important, the utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless broadband Internet, digital TV, 1 parking spots, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine, etc.) are INCLUDED in the price of 270 EUR/month. The Fianza (Deposit) is also EUR 270, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment (you will have to give me at least 30 days notice). As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment. My daughter is building her life here, and i am too old to move to Portugal, so we won't disturb you.
You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a very large and well ventilated cellar, where you can store my furniture.
Now, a little bit about myself so we can get to know each other better. My name is Juliette Leon and I'm a 58 years old graphic designer from Torino/Italy, planning to retire in the next 2 years.
I have a lovely husband, David and a 25 year old daughter, Linda. I am very proud to say that soon I'm going to be a grandmother :). Another member of our family is a 8 year old Labrador which we all love, so, I have no problem if you will keep pets.
The only inconvenience is that my job doesn't allow me to leave Torino even for one single day. We just hired some new staff and I'm in charge of their training.
But this won't affect you at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from Torino (on my expense of course).
Looking forward to hear from you soon.
All the best from Torino!
Juliette Leon
[email protected]
"
Era bom demais, Achei estranho e tal mas pronto até poderia ser possível, há muitos casos destes de estrangeiros que compram casas para os filhos estudar. Então lá se respondeu ao primeiro email e tal a dizer quem ia morar etc etc... segundo email pronto percebi logo o esquema...
"
Hi,
Thank you for your reply but the matter is that I'm in Torino / Italy already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for one month of rent will be 270 EUR + 270 security deposit ( Fianza ) = (540 euro), with no extra taxes to pay.I must have one month rent + security deposit from you.You pay this money just for this time and every month you pay just 270 euro . The money, I want to recive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem for you to wire the money to my bank account. The apartment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you like it. Obviously we need a way to complete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 2 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a company called MoneyBookers which is similar to FedEx or UPS, which will handle both payment and delivery of the Keys. I have found a procedure that will allow you to pay for the rent of the apt only after you will receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my payment. Please click on the link bellow to the MoneyBookers website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company where the procedure is explained: https://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=escrow&l=EN
Let me know if you are interested please because I really need to take care of this matter.
"
Fui logo pesquisar e tal a morada é exactamente a de uma empresa http://www.portugalio.com/mamede-faria/
Se fosse fiável estaria numa imobiliária, estrangeiro e tal passar as chaves? lol bem ficam avisados mais um email e uma casa SCAM.
A minha pena é terem ficado com o email da minha namorada e com o número de tlm.Colocado por: RicardoSilvaEu e a minha namorada estamos à procura de casa e então surge-nos o seguinte linkhttp://casa.sapo.pt/Apartamento-T6-ou-superior-Alugar-Guimaraes-6c94863c-1b4f-4b2b-a8b6-1bfda824e611.html
Bom demais... mas pronto a minha namorada lá contactou. Primeiro email:
Coisas que o deveriam fazer suspeitar ainda antes do e-mail.
- repare nas fotos onde aparece o frigorifico. Numa tem o micro-ondas em cima do frigorifico, na noutra não.
- será que tem 2 fogões? aparecem em fotos diferentes.
- será que tem 2 frigorificos? aparecem 2 diferentes.
- os ar-condicionados de janela que aparecem nas fotos são muito raros em portugal (menos ainda em casas remodeladas/novas)
Um T2 por 270€ em Guimarães, com esta qualidade era um achado, mas não era 100% impossivel.0.0375 seg. NEW
